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		<title>Comment on user-centered design ignores some people by Initial thoughts on selling Design &#124; Designing for Experience</title>
		<link>http://designingforexperience.com/2011/05/18/user-centered-design-ignores-some-people/comment-page-1/#comment-1099</link>
		<dc:creator>Initial thoughts on selling Design &#124; Designing for Experience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 13:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] written about how User-Centered Design (UCD) leaves out some people, and Michael alludes to this same fact in his article when he says to &#8220;bring your [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Thoughts on conferences by Niels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interact really screwed up everything. Food, badges, program guide, and even the location (split between buildings). I had a lot of fun and interesting discussions but the organizer left some room for further improvement…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interact really screwed up everything. Food, badges, program guide, and even the location (split between buildings). I had a lot of fun and interesting discussions but the organizer left some room for further improvement…</p>
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		<title>Comment on user-centered design ignores some people by aaronh</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaronh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Matt,
Sorry I&#039;ve been slow on the uptake, I thought this comment was from a previous post. I suck, we need to talk more I think.
In my work I&#039;m addressing the idea of &quot;throwing things over the wall&quot; more directly.  I&#039;ll post about that in the next month or so as I develop a longer journal article on it.
In a way I think you&#039;re advocating a design as a kind of shared organizational competence. I like the idea of it, but can we expect everyone to do it? Who do we target for such things?
I&#039;d love to talk more offline about how that works in your workplace.
I need to read your post and the comment Chad made on it, and then comment there or here or both. I think we should consider writing up some of these ideas into a provocative piece that could go into Interactions magazine or Johnny Holland or UXmatters or similar. We need to get people talking about this more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Matt,<br />
Sorry I&#8217;ve been slow on the uptake, I thought this comment was from a previous post. I suck, we need to talk more I think.<br />
In my work I&#8217;m addressing the idea of &#8220;throwing things over the wall&#8221; more directly.  I&#8217;ll post about that in the next month or so as I develop a longer journal article on it.<br />
In a way I think you&#8217;re advocating a design as a kind of shared organizational competence. I like the idea of it, but can we expect everyone to do it? Who do we target for such things?<br />
I&#8217;d love to talk more offline about how that works in your workplace.<br />
I need to read your post and the comment Chad made on it, and then comment there or here or both. I think we should consider writing up some of these ideas into a provocative piece that could go into Interactions magazine or Johnny Holland or UXmatters or similar. We need to get people talking about this more.</p>
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		<title>Comment on user-centered design ignores some people by Matt Snyder</title>
		<link>http://designingforexperience.com/2011/05/18/user-centered-design-ignores-some-people/comment-page-1/#comment-1048</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad you&#039;re thinking about user-centered design this way... I see this a lot where I work, where designers throw their designs over a &quot;wall&quot; and A) expect someone else to understand it, and build it, and B) get offended when it doesn&#039;t happen.  I think all designers need to realize that a constraint of designing is the environment and culture in which they work.  Some people see UX designers as &quot;button makers&quot;, others see UX designers as advocates of users whose advice is &quot;optional&quot;.  Good ideas, fancy drawings, and authorship value has to be rethought of in terms of teams, process, and development.  

I touched upon this in a paper/book &quot;The Design Keepers&quot;.  http://www.primopollo.com/img/downloads/TheDesignKeepers-email.pdf

Some user-centered designers (UX Designers?), who come from backgrounds that support and sustain design value as a quality of authorship, lack the ability and skills to work (design) with others.  But that&#039;s not the world we live in.  Design is no longer a craft, where tools dictate output.  The value of design doesn&#039;t belong to individuals.  And within organizations, it certainly does not belong to a handful of &quot;user advocates&quot; - instead design value has be instilled by all stakeholders.  User-centered designers need to understand others within their organization as well as understand &quot;users&quot;.  Makers of things can only make things for others if they understand themselves AND others.  It&#039;s about influence, teaching, and inspiring others...

I wrote a few ideas about how UX designers can work with others recently.  http://www.primopollo.com/?p=826.

Great post.  Keep it coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad you&#8217;re thinking about user-centered design this way&#8230; I see this a lot where I work, where designers throw their designs over a &#8220;wall&#8221; and A) expect someone else to understand it, and build it, and B) get offended when it doesn&#8217;t happen.  I think all designers need to realize that a constraint of designing is the environment and culture in which they work.  Some people see UX designers as &#8220;button makers&#8221;, others see UX designers as advocates of users whose advice is &#8220;optional&#8221;.  Good ideas, fancy drawings, and authorship value has to be rethought of in terms of teams, process, and development.  </p>
<p>I touched upon this in a paper/book &#8220;The Design Keepers&#8221;.  <a href="http://www.primopollo.com/img/downloads/TheDesignKeepers-email.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.primopollo.com/img/downloads/TheDesignKeepers-email.pdf</a></p>
<p>Some user-centered designers (UX Designers?), who come from backgrounds that support and sustain design value as a quality of authorship, lack the ability and skills to work (design) with others.  But that&#8217;s not the world we live in.  Design is no longer a craft, where tools dictate output.  The value of design doesn&#8217;t belong to individuals.  And within organizations, it certainly does not belong to a handful of &#8220;user advocates&#8221; &#8211; instead design value has be instilled by all stakeholders.  User-centered designers need to understand others within their organization as well as understand &#8220;users&#8221;.  Makers of things can only make things for others if they understand themselves AND others.  It&#8217;s about influence, teaching, and inspiring others&#8230;</p>
<p>I wrote a few ideas about how UX designers can work with others recently.  <a href="http://www.primopollo.com/?p=826" rel="nofollow">http://www.primopollo.com/?p=826</a>.</p>
<p>Great post.  Keep it coming.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I am one of 7 people thinking of the philosophy of technology? by Gotowe portale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gotowe portale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m impressed, I need to say. Really not often do I encounter a blog that’s both educative and entertaining, and let me inform you, you could have hit the nail on the head. Your idea is excellent; the issue is one thing that not enough persons are speaking intelligently about. I&#039;m very happy that I stumbled across this in my seek for something relating to this.</description>
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		<title>Comment on drinking deeply at the pools of ethnography by aaronh</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaronh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Matt,
None of the texts I mentioned deals with that, but there certainly are some books addressing this.  To some extent I&#039;m addressing this topic in my PhD research, but beyond that narrow band I&#039;m very interested in the idea and practice of corporate culture and how to change and influence it in order to make better stuff, create a better place to work, and ultimately make the world a better place (yes I&#039;m an idealist sometimes).
But to answer your question, This &lt;a href=&quot;http://hbr.org/2009/03/ethnographic-research-a-key-to-strategy/ar/1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Harvard Business Review article &lt;/a&gt;addresses it, two books (that I&#039;ve not read mind you) that specifically talk about it are : &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Organizational-Ethnography-Studying-Complexity-Everyday/dp/1847870465?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=clippingsfrommylife-20&amp;link_code=btl&amp;camp=213689&amp;creative=392969&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Organizational Ethnography: Studying the Complexity of Everyday Life&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Organizational-Ethnography-ebook/dp/B002FB6PWO?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=clippingsfrommylife-20&amp;link_code=btl&amp;camp=213689&amp;creative=392969&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Organizational Ethnography&lt;/a&gt; And of course the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.epiconference.com/2011/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;EPIC conference&lt;/a&gt; addresses this directly.  This is similar to CHI in that it has both academics and practitioners, but my understanding is that since it&#039;s quite focused on doing Ethnography in businesses it has a more practical edge.
On a more personal level if you are interested in influencing corporate culture around you read or listen to Tribal Leadership, (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.culturesync.net/tribal-leadership-audio-book&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;free audiobook&lt;/a&gt;) and I recently listened to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Delivering-Happiness-Profits-Passion-Purpose/dp/0446563048?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=clippingsfrommylife-20&amp;link_code=btl&amp;camp=213689&amp;creative=392969&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Delivering Happiness&lt;/a&gt; which talks about how Zappos has explicitly made culture and UX/customer service the very heart of what they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Matt,<br />
None of the texts I mentioned deals with that, but there certainly are some books addressing this.  To some extent I&#8217;m addressing this topic in my PhD research, but beyond that narrow band I&#8217;m very interested in the idea and practice of corporate culture and how to change and influence it in order to make better stuff, create a better place to work, and ultimately make the world a better place (yes I&#8217;m an idealist sometimes).<br />
But to answer your question, This <a href="http://hbr.org/2009/03/ethnographic-research-a-key-to-strategy/ar/1" rel="nofollow">Harvard Business Review article </a>addresses it, two books (that I&#8217;ve not read mind you) that specifically talk about it are : <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Organizational-Ethnography-Studying-Complexity-Everyday/dp/1847870465?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=clippingsfrommylife-20&#038;link_code=btl&#038;camp=213689&#038;creative=392969" rel="nofollow">Organizational Ethnography: Studying the Complexity of Everyday Life</a> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Organizational-Ethnography-ebook/dp/B002FB6PWO?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=clippingsfrommylife-20&#038;link_code=btl&#038;camp=213689&#038;creative=392969" rel="nofollow">Organizational Ethnography</a> And of course the <a href="http://www.epiconference.com/2011/" rel="nofollow">EPIC conference</a> addresses this directly.  This is similar to CHI in that it has both academics and practitioners, but my understanding is that since it&#8217;s quite focused on doing Ethnography in businesses it has a more practical edge.<br />
On a more personal level if you are interested in influencing corporate culture around you read or listen to Tribal Leadership, (<a href="http://www.culturesync.net/tribal-leadership-audio-book" rel="nofollow">free audiobook</a>) and I recently listened to <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Delivering-Happiness-Profits-Passion-Purpose/dp/0446563048?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=clippingsfrommylife-20&#038;link_code=btl&#038;camp=213689&#038;creative=392969" rel="nofollow">Delivering Happiness</a> which talks about how Zappos has explicitly made culture and UX/customer service the very heart of what they do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on drinking deeply at the pools of ethnography by Matt Snyder</title>
		<link>http://designingforexperience.com/2011/03/21/drinking-deeply-at-the-pools-of-ethnography/comment-page-1/#comment-1001</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I&#039;ve been thinking about &quot;design&quot; and &quot;design influence&quot; at my job recently.  It&#039;s become apparent that great design happens within organizations and cultures.  I&#039;ve had to learn to participate as a designer both for a product and as an influence upon the culture that exists here.  I&#039;ve found myself using my basic (and unpolished) ethnographic research skills to understand how design happens in order to affect design – something that wasn&#039;t in the job description!  Do any of the above mentioned authors talk about ethnography from a corporate-culture point of view?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I&#8217;ve been thinking about &#8220;design&#8221; and &#8220;design influence&#8221; at my job recently.  It&#8217;s become apparent that great design happens within organizations and cultures.  I&#8217;ve had to learn to participate as a designer both for a product and as an influence upon the culture that exists here.  I&#8217;ve found myself using my basic (and unpolished) ethnographic research skills to understand how design happens in order to affect design – something that wasn&#8217;t in the job description!  Do any of the above mentioned authors talk about ethnography from a corporate-culture point of view?</p>
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		<title>Comment on DIS 2010 Day 2 Liveblog by Clemente Trevisan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clemente Trevisan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 20:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am extremely impressed along with your writing skills neatly as with the format in your blog. Is this a paid theme or did you modify it yourself? Either way keep up the excellent high quality writing, it is rare to peer a nice blog like this one these days..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am extremely impressed along with your writing skills neatly as with the format in your blog. Is this a paid theme or did you modify it yourself? Either way keep up the excellent high quality writing, it is rare to peer a nice blog like this one these days..</p>
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		<dc:creator>Interaction, movement, and dance at DIS 2010 &#8250; The Ayman and Naaman Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] studies. Aaron Houssian liveblogged all three days in case you need to catch up: [Day 1, Day 2, Day 3]. I spoke on Day 3, the morning after we build a nail gun [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>Interaction, movement, and dance at DIS 2010 &#8250; The Ayman and Naaman Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] studies. Aaron Houssian liveblogged all three days in case you need to catch up: [Day 1, Day 2, Day 3]. I spoke on Day 3, the morning after we build a nail gun [...]</description>
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